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Notewell
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I am buying a cheap Chinese printer so had to make a start with Cura.  I have been thinking for some years that adaptive layers (I did not know it was called that) would be brilliant, did not realise Cura did this.  Conical support is a great way to cut down on support print time.   These should both be incorporated into AM and of course a speedo to show travel speed.

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Posted : 22nd April 2019 12:58 am
Pete
 Pete
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Check out the beta test 🙂 https://www.cel-uk.com/community/am-beta/automaker-4-00-00-and-automakerpro-free-trial/

 

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Posted : 23rd April 2019 9:48 am
Mike
 Mike
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I have been thinking for some years that adaptive layers (I did not know it was called that) would be brilliant, did not realise Cura did this.

@nigelberry Interestingly, in my beta I don't see this in AutoMaker Pro, and you'd expect to see a link in this screen shot to "Use variable Layer Height" or "Adaptive Layers" in this panel.

 

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Posted : 23rd April 2019 6:57 pm
Notewell
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Pete in the four and a half years I have owned the Robox, I have accumulated in excess of 2 heads and 3 extruders, I know this as I still have these and I am sure a couple more have been tossed out. This means I have almost spent the price of a new machine in spare parts. Oh and I am forgetting the ones that were replaced under warranty. Oh yes and my bed heater exploded and I now print with a cold bed. My latest extruder appears to be an amazing device it has managed some five rolls of filament and not even looked like missing a beat. Could it be that after some four years we have a good design on our hands?  Wow, after this amount of time my Robox is getting on perhaps I should think about buying another if they are now free of problems. Hang on, where do I buy one in Australia? As far as I know to this point we still have no support in Australia, so lets just buy a CR 10 and learn to tinker and how to use Cura. I am not a tinkerer, I hate playing with machines. But with the Robox I have had to replace extruders, bowden cables and the bed ( just have not bothered to get someone in to replace the fuse and  triac) . The Robox has to be the closest you can get to the 3D equivalent of my Canon 2D printer and in principle is a great concept, which is why I bought one in the first place.

There is no way I will be paying for software, even if the cost was $1 per year. If these functions are included in the free software that will be great, but if you want to hold them back for the paid version so be it.

By pointing out those two items and not including some of the many other features I discovered in Cura, I thought I was doing you a favour.  I am going to be learning Cura anyway, so I am not going to waste my time on software I will not be buying. 

Once I am more familiar with Cura, I will just use it to write the code and use it to run the Robox this will give me access to all the features of Cura including the slicing simulation which is brilliant, although I did not include that in my request as I wanted to limit the wish list to something that might happen.

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Posted : 23rd April 2019 10:44 pm
Notewell
(@nigelberry)
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That is not where I would want it to be, I would want it on the page where brim and raft get mentioned, so it can be selected just before printing.  The same with conical supports, should be beside the supports check box so you get supports or with extra box checked you get conical supports.

I won't be bothering with AM Pro as I am not paying CEL for software.  I don't have a thing about paying for software, my cad cost me 4k so it is not that I have an inbuilt resistance to buying software, I just refuse to get screwed for options that should have been in AM years ago.  I can understand CEL wanting to keep AM simple and easy to use, but I don't think either of those items I suggested would have made it too difficult to handle.

Also as I am buying a printer that requires I learn Cura, I can get those features and a heap more in Cura at no cost, and then use them in the Robox.

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Posted : 24th April 2019 1:09 am
Pete
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This is just the first release of a platform which will adapt. The line between free and paid features can and will be moved as we develop more tools. We were not foolish enough to expect users to rush into buying the software, it was never going to be a popular change. It will adapt and allow us to place a value on the development of new tools.

A loose plan is to have business users pay for some of the development which can filter down to the free version.

Adaptive layers will require a visualisation to make the value obvious. It is possible to turn it on in the pro software but you can not yet view the variation in the layers in a nice way.

Using raw Cura gcode in Robox is possible but will not use the hardware in the way it is intended nor benefit from the nozzle valves without knowledgeable tweaking.

Sales and Support in Australia is something we are working on.

 

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Posted : 24th April 2019 10:02 am
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